PIS Episode: Dr. Z with Clarissa Ong

Behavior change, Podcast

In this episode, I chat with Clarisa Ong, a predoctoral intern at McLean Hospital/Harvard Medical School. We discussed the difference between values and pliance, how Acceptance and Commitment Therapy approaches perfectionistic behaviors, what’s unique about it, and how to pay attention to rules when wanting to do things right and perfect.

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